X vs. Y Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) Subject: X vs. Y Graeme writes: >Anyways, I think that Xbooks is a responsible enough group full of kind >and loving enough people (except for Vod and Nyx, of course) that this >thread won't degenerate. It's healthy to discuss these topice, and helps >us all get to know one anohter better. So until I start seeing a repeat >of "X vs. X" in this thread, I don't think it'll be necessary to abort. Spider-Man could beat Jesus! I haven't read all of Jesus' appearances, but I think I can state from what I've read of them from Jesus collectors here on the newsgroup that this thing would be possible. First off, all of the old Jesus writers really didn't know his character. That's because they're not writing him today. Jesus has never shown the ability to resist a punch capable of shattering steel in his face! You'd think that if the Jesus writers wanted him to be able to survive such a punch, they'd have put him in a situation where they could show that. So I don't go by the old Jesus appearances. But let's not argue back issues, because I don't have any. Let's just consider Spider-Man: 1. Spider-Man has reflexes much faster than any human. Jesus is supposed to be a god, yes, but he's also, more importantly, a man. And Spider-Man is faster than a lot of gods, anyway, as shown by his defeat of Firelord and Thanos. Spider-Man could react really quickly to anything Jesus would like to do. 2. Spider-Man has his spider-sense, which will allow him the ability to react to Jesus before Jesus can even throw a punch! This, combined with his speed, makes Spider-Man easily capable of beating Jesus. 3. Spider-Man's web-shooters. I'd like to see Jesus multiply fish by magic when he's trying to concentrate with a big glob of webbing in his face! Especially when Spider-Man starts whipping him around with his super-strength, I don't think Jesus will be able to do much about that. The way I see it, though, it could be an even match if they fought outside a city or someplace. I mean, Spider-Man needs buildings to swing on, and big trees aren't all that useful, since Jesus could just curse them and make them wither away. And out on a lake Jesus would win, since he could walk out over the water where Spider-Man couldn't reach him! Well, except for his web-shooters, but I don't know if I'm allowed to actually combine arguments into a coherent whole. Hmm. This is a puzzler, no doubt! And anyway, Jesus knows a lot more about surviving in the desert than Spider-Man. Spider-Man could hide in a basement, however, until the sandstorms pass, and then he could use his spider-sense to find Jesus and pound his face in. Perhaps if Jesus snuck up on Spider-Man in the basement with a crowbar, though, Jesus could take him out. After all, Aunt May once did that, and that was because Spider-Man's spider- sense didn't recognize her as a threat! And if there's one thing Jesus ain't to Spider-Man, it's a threat! Well, it could work, but that was actually written by an older writer, so maybe he didn't know anything, anyway. If lead pipes were supposed to exist in Spider-Man comics, you'd think the writers would show them occasionally, but since they don't, it's obvious that crowbars aren't supposed to exist in Spider-Man comics. Really, most of Jesus' powers are really lame. I mean, he could make Spider-Man drunk before the battle by changing all the water in his building to wine, and his ability to cast out demons is pretty cool (Jesus vs. Ghost Rider would be an awesomely kool match!), but Spider-Man is fast, and, you see, that means he's basically fast, which means he will win, because that's the way the writers have it nowadays. Little did you know that you would ask that question and I would have such a great answer! --Rob Liefeld